Author: msanjay

  • to marry or not to marry…

    A friend had sent me some wedding snaps with some comments as well, and had given a brief explanation of the Kashi yatra. I have witnessed countless weddings but hadn’t a clue or even bothered about the significance of what this part was all about (I doubt if anybody else did either, else they were being pretty secretive about it! 😉 ) ….anyway , it turned out to be quite interesting…

    KASI YATRA
    This a very important part of the ceremony. Immediately after his student-life, the young bachelor has two alternatives before him Married life ( Grihasta ) or asceticism ( Sanyas ). Being by nature escapist, he prefers the ascetic life to the tribulations of married life. He therefore “makes his way” to kasi (VARANASI), complete with slippers, umbrella, bamboo fan etc. On his way, the bride’s father intervenes and advises him of the superiority of married life to ascetic life. He also promises to give him his daughter as companion to face the challenge of life. The umbrella is to remain with groom, to remind him in the future, of this advice.the real tradition.

    (However there are different view points on this aspect. Given below is an observation by Sri. Narayan of Malaysia :

    During the wedding ceremony the groom is welcomed as Mahavishnu Svarupaya varahaya ie maha vishnu himself ( or the Siva the equivalent in the Adi Saiva tradition ) and the bride as Lakshmi. Thence , it is imperative he knows no sin, thence he needs to perform a yatra to kashi , submerge in Ganges and comes and does the wedding purified.

    In the days of yore , when a man after education takes a yatra like this ( it takes up some months, sometimes a year on foot) , he gets to see the world , otherwise which he would not have been exposed to , thence from Brahmacharya , before moving to grahasta ashrama he come experienced and purified, disiplined ( goal oriented) and fit to take up the challenges of married life. And those days the groom would have been engaged ( nischya dartha) , and proceeds on this yatra and is welcomed back after the father in-law etc after coming back, with this words Maha Vishnu Svarupaya, and given the kanya dhana.

    Samnyasa and Grathasta ashrama are both pillars of the society , which is still relevant and have positive contributions to society.This has to be clearly understood.

    Narayan, Malaysia )

    Source: Sanathana dharma – South Indian Wedding

    Wrt “come experienced and purified” above, is really an important pre-requisite for married life and a reference to getting atleast an infinetessimal glimpse of the Infinite within oneself. Not necessarily everyone in the country has an opportunity to go to actual River Ganga, but this “submerge in Ganges” has to be done within oneself! One may have a lot of theorotical knowledge, but all the theory isn’t any comparison to even one single moment of actual experience.

    Anyway, not sure if becoming a sanyaasi is really escapism… but this forwarded mail says otherwise 😉 …

    sadhu with no advice

  • Aishwarya on Oprah

    Oprah Takes You Around the World

    Interesting interview – I also browsed through the site a bit and came across this… What I Know For Sure by Oprah, which was really impressive! To me it sounds like she’s speaking from direct experience – not just typical philosophy or mere speculation! 🙂

    Also see: parable from Illusions (Richard Bach)

  • H2G2 radio shows

    Thanks to the punyaatma Jaideep who sent this beautiful link of the radio version of Douglas Adam’s trilogy The Hitch Hiker’s Guide To The Galaxy …sure to help me make better use of my new BSNL Broadband connection!

    All ye douglas adams fans, floating aimlessly in the universe…… yenjai!!!!

    All the radio shows from the late 70’s
    Quite well-done actually!!!

    Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy complete radio show

  • back from Mysore

    Had been to Mysore – left on Saturday morning and came back yesterday night with Gajanan and some others.

    Was an excellent trip… will update with more details if and as and when I find time.


    Talkaad

    On the way back, we visited Talkaad . It was a nice place – huge expanse of water and sand though nothing overly spectacular. There were plenty of temples covered by sand dunes but barely exposed, but we decided not to visit them. Others swam in the murky water but I preferred to take a ride on a coracle due to a slightly bleeding cut on my toe.

    The boatman was a 73 year old man Mahadeviah with a toothy smile. Moving away from the shore, the water below had a lot of beautiful plants that looked like miniature trees – it looked just like flying over them in a helicopter – with small fishes darting around looking like birds. Mahadeviah had a very serene temperment – seemed to be very very content. He could speak and understand English as well, had passed SSLC “old scheme” [which Gajanan later said was pretty tough – a person failing one subject had to take all the subjects again].

    I asked him about his lifestyle and he spoke about a lot of things – I could not help feeling a deep affection for him. I told him that my dad’s name was Mahadeviah too. He had been rowing people to and fro from 6 AM to 6 PM every day for the past many decades – no holidays – 7 days a week. They have a group of oarsman (ok actually they used poles as the water was shallow enough) and people take turns to ferry people around, and finally all the money is split among everybody.

    When we came back, I insisted that he come with us again, though it was somebody else’s turn – later I wondered if I was being selfish because it might be too much of strain for two consequtive rides. Later on one of my friends insisted that he wanted to try controlling the coracle by himself – but Mahadeviah wasn’t very comfortable with it – I had to interfere as I had myself asked him myself earlier and got the same reply. It was Rs. 5 per person, but I was quite generous to him even though knowing it get pooled together for everybody. In a few moments he had dragged his coracle and disappeared among the crowds..


    How I got to Mysore:

    This is from the newsgroup, actually on Friday I had asked for a lift to see if anybody was going, nobody replied, but still…

    ———————-
    22-Apr-2005, 1:40 PM
    “Sanjay M” wrote in message

    > I’m taking a wild gamble here since I dont lose anything – by any holistic
    > chance if someone is travelling anywhere in this direction this
    > evening/night…
    >
    > Neragathanahalli, Near T Narasipur (10 km from T Narasipur), Mysore
    >
    > …and can give me a lift – just one slim (…er… ok compared to a sumo
    > wrestler) man with one backpack – please email me. I’ll be happy to share
    > fuel expenses.
    >
    > As I cant leave office early in the day today, it would be a bit more
    > challenging than I’m prepared to take on at the moment (maybe signs of
    > aging), to go by public transport in the evening to Mysore and find my way
    > around to the village at night.
    >
    > I’ll be meeting some friends and returning with them on Sunday.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Sanjay
    >
    > PS: needless to say, nothing will happen if I dont go also.
    >
    >
    ————–
    22-Apr-2005, 5:46 PM

    “Sanjay M” wrote in message
    btw, holistic theory in action:

    a colleague in my very own cubicle happens to be going to Mysore… but
    tomorrow morning… still its ok 🙂

    Cheers,
    Sanjay

  • to write or not to write…

    How can you find peace in the world? By lying still. You
    don’t do anything, don’t try to purify it, otherwise you will
    muddle it more. Just lie down on the bank, wait. By lying
    still it becomes clear on its own accord. Don’t be worried
    about transforming the world; don’t be worried about changing
    others. Who are you? And who has sent you on this mission to
    change others? Everybody is directly related to the divine.
    Why are you there to interfere? You just sit silently.

    –Osho—

    I think this is a very important quote – it will take some time for me to digest it – maybe the rest of my life. Right now I don’t feel like relapsing into silence (all day every day).

    I’m obsessed with writing, it kind of grips me and does not let me go until I pen it down. Sometimes I write useless things and even worse send it to the wrong people, but there have been times when people have gotten back to me saying that they’ve found the (“my”?) words really unique and inspirational and so on. Several people from various forums eg company newsgroup have surprised me at random times saying they’re my fan and have been enjoying my posts. One of the main purpose of putting up the weblog is to publish all the posts I’ve put up in the ng, I think there have been times I’ve unwittingly ended up writting some possibly extraordinary things.

    One thing is I’m often as much a reader of what I write as anybody else, they surprise me. Neale Donald Walsch in his book Conversations With God (not that I read it cover to cover) – says he’s just an instrument of some other power. Its only a vague analogy, I don’t hear any voices or any such thing.

    But on the other hand, at a certain point, I get attached to my own words and my ego takes over, and its very very subtle to know at which point who’s in control! (personally, I’m certain it would be a waste of time when I write when I’m in control) I end up becoming hopelessly verbose. I think it’s a question of constant experimentation to know when to stop, what to cut out, when to save as a draft and not send, when to delete the entire draft, and most importantly, when to not to blindly react by writing whenever I feel like writing.

    Writing is like constructing intricate jewelry using words. It’s a very very expensive hobby – in terms of time – and its very hard to know when its worth it and when its not. So far I’ve concluded experimentation – trial and error – is the only way.

    If I think about it, inspiration is what I find in books by Douglas Adams or Feynman or Bach. They really make me happy and give me a different perspective, and help me defamilarise myself with familiar things in my own life (which I think is the essence of what is familiarly known as Zen).

    But the thing is when I’d first read HHGTTG in college, I found it a very funny book but nothing much beyond that. But when I happened to read it again the second time a few years later, it suddenly hit me that he’s expressed concepts of fundamental human psychology and universal principles in his writing! But the book is the same! So maybe its not really reading the book itself that made me understand things better.

    I would owe my own evolution (hopefully, and relative only to myself in the past) more to sitting in silence with a non-judgemental awareness than reading or writing things.

    If I look back, other than being fun, I feel the purpose of my writing – other than a mode of self-expression – at times may also be (just occurred to me now actually) to shout out to the world that there’s more to life than the obvious.

    Wrt the quote, which says…

    Don’t be worried about transforming the world; don’t be worried about changing others.

    …the fact is that when I start off to write, its not to transform or change anything but just to speak my mind. But sometimes, it may end up with a slight subtle twist unknown to me, where I actually start thinking from a reader – am I writing something interesting or not? Worse still is writing with the idea of creating an impression or trying to tell somebody something – forgetting the timeless truth that each person has his own way of learning, and his own time for it as well. And what makes sense to one dosen’t necessarily suit another.

    Once I had read somewhere that this is a common situation for writers (who aren’t compelled to write as a business) in general. Needless to say, this is the situation when writing ends up becoming a colossal waste of time – and the best solution is to not write at all for quite a while… until the mind quietens again. 🙂

    11-Mar-2005
    Had written to Paulo Coelho for permission to publish some excerpts from his site on my blog that were relevant to me, which a representative approved, and also sent me this article link where he explains what he feels about writing! 😀

    In search of my island by Paulo Coelho

    [Not that he has read this post, but] I felt as if he is reassuring me about my own hesitation towards writing 🙂

  • The Holistic Theory of Learning

    Succinct article about the learning curve…

    The Holistic Theory of Learning
    (The Whole Is More Than The Sum Of The Parts)
    by
    James R. melton

  • value of time re(re…)visited

    Wanted to go to Mysore today with Gajanan, but had to cancel at the last moment as there were just too many appointments at work.

    Time – every single moment – is so precious, yet I so often waste it on all kinds of useless things.

    There are always a thousand logical rational reasons to prevent us from doing what we like to do. Today I got caught up in some newsgroup threads in the morning, I could not finish my work to leave this afternoon to Mysore.

    There are so many forces that stop us from doing things we like and following our heart especially our own traps of guilt and obligation. (Paulo Coehlo’s ideas in that interview were really excellent – I better print it out and put it up in some place where I can read it everyday).

    I hope I remember this accute sense of dissatisfaction forever and that it can be so easily avoided with some proper planning and prioritisation!

  • "Kannadave Sathya" at palace grounds..

    “Kannadave Sathya” at palace grounds…

    Bangalore’s music loving audience will be witness to a mammoth musical extravaganza, aptly named “Kannadave Sathya”.

    * Date: April 23, 2005
    * Venue: Palace Grounds, Bangalore

    ETV KannadaThe program is being promoted by “Global Consultants” and the media partners are ETV Kannada. This program will feature well-known music composer and singer C. Aswath and 20 other popular singers. In accompaniment will be an orchestra comprising of 30 popular and leading musicians. A 30000+ crowd is expected to gather at this event.

  • science and religion

    Men diverge into two things – either in search of God or in search of scientific truth. It begins with the one common element – curiosity. But the curiosity is not without its limitations. Both usually cannot bear to digest anything beyond the limits of what they know. For example a deeply religious man is likely to dismiss an aethist’s life as meaningless and doomed. Or wrt intution the first thing a scientist will do is remind one, quite correctly, that intution is not scientifically proven.

    Though I am and have always been quite a scientifically inclined person (and even have plans to pursue it further) – I believe beyond a shadow of doubt that a significant fraction of science, just like religion, is like the emperor’s new clothes. (You might have read the story when you were a kid, reading it again IMO would still be a worthwhile investment of time.)

    Science is intellectual entertainment (“how? why? an answer… there must be an answer… and I will figure it out based on what all these other intelligent people have figured out…”), religion is emotional entertainment (“how reassuring it is that whenever things go wrong, I can ask Some Supreme Power to take care of me and everything else“).

    They do have their place, we probably need these things until we can become free from them.

    I’m particularly curious about one thing – we have definitely not reached the end of evolution, its still going on… Would we with all our abilities and achievements still be like primitive apes in comparison to countless generations into the future? 🙂

    I hear babies cryin’, I watch them grow
    They’ll learn much more than I’ll ever know
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
    Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world

    ~ Louis Armstrong


    Here are a couple of quotes from H2G2 by Douglas Adams on similar lines. If I were to imagine what an enlightned man would be like, it would probably come close to him 🙂

    There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers
    exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will
    instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more
    bizarre and inexplicable.

    There is another theory which states that this has already
    happened.

    Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than
    dolphins because he had achieved so much… the wheel, New York,
    wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck
    about in the water having a good time. But conversely the
    dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent than man
    for precisely the same reasons.

  • IIMB Graduation day!

    So why am I bothered….

    Because Sudhee is one of the graduates…!! 😀

    Sudhee is a timeless friend whom destiny made cross my path in my previous workplace iCOPE Technologies .

    Check out the last line of the article below… WOW !!!

    Shining India cannot grow unless it takes with it the darker side of the country. This was the advice of Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd Vice-Chairman and Managing Director Anand Mahindra in his convocation address to graduating students of the Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore, (IIMB), 192 of whom listened in awe-struck silence.

    ….

    Devesh Chaturvedi was awarded the gold medal for academic excellence in the PG programme in public policy and management, while Anish Madhavan got the first rank in software enterprise management. Sudheendra N K bagged the gold medal for best all-round performance in this.