questioning conventional medicine

This isn’t really a post, but just an open question that was suggested by a reader as it came up as this issue was brought up in Muktha (a Kannada TV serial) recently.

Does the medical industry including drug manufacturers and doctors generate business by creating fear among people ?

This industry like any other has both good and bad aspects. There are all kinds of people from those who are committed to improve the standards of human life to those who would leave no stone unturned in order to generate business.

This is only a generic question to try and look at different perspectives. [Due to lack of time my own comments may be limited.]

7 Responses to “questioning conventional medicine”

  1. Anitha Says:

    For common people like us , it is very difficult to decide whether a particular drug is good or bad , OR if the condition requires any treatment at all …OR may be as Sanjay said, leave it for itself and it will get cured on its own.. For me I cannot make this decision (especially for my children)

    This is what I do …I always go to a doctor who do not prescribe drugs unnecessarily (Even if they charge 200 RS for saying, there is nothing .. i am o.k. with it) . This way I am very sure that I am not overdosed with something , unnecessarily, which would cause problem in the future.

    I have found a very good paediatrician with the above qualities , but for elders I am yet to find one.

  2. bellur ramakrishna Says:

    hi sanjay,
    Sorry in advance for the length of this post; I’ve tried to cut it…

    firstly, plz read this article titled ‘Fighting the Drug (Ad) Wars’ on http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020617/siegel

    i am against taking drugs to cure the symptoms of an illness. i strongly believe that no drug can CURE a disease. at best, it MAY cure the symptom.
    ‘penguin Dictionary of proverbs’ says about doctors:

    One Doctor makes work for another
    The Doctor is often more to be feared than the disease
    Physicians kill more than they cure.
    A young physicians fattens the churchyard.
    If you have a physician for a friend tip your hat and send him to your enemy.
    came across these comments related to MEDICAL HOAX.

    “The only cure of a degenerative disease ever established, has been by a vitamin, mineral, or essential food factor. No prescription drug has EVER cured a SINGLE degenerative disease. While antibiotics can kill bacteria in the body and have no doubt saved lives that would otherwise have been lost since the discovery of penicillin, this does not mean that the bacteria is the CAUSE of the “disease” being treated nor does it mean that antibiotics are the BEST way to handle the situation because Klenner (MD)demonstrated way back in the fifties (published hospital studies, Southern Medical J) that intravenous vitamin C in megadoses kills off ANY infection known to man (including tetanus -lockjaw) without ANY harmful side effects. What is being treated when an antibiotice is used… is the SYMPTOM, not the disease, but that is another story for another day. To say that bacteria cause disease is like saying that the flies cause the manure pile and firemen cause house fires because each of the latter are found on the scene. Bacteria are EFFECTS…. not CAUSES.”–Dr Duffy DC

    “Most patients probably assume that when a doctor proposes to use an established treatment to conquer a disease he will be using a treatment which has been tested, examined and proven. But this is not the case. The savage truth is that most medical research is organised, paid for, commissioned or subsidised by the drug industry (and the food, tobacco and alcohol industries). This type of research is designed, quite simply, to find evidence showing a new product is of commercial value. The companies which commission such research are not terribly bothered about evidence; what they are looking for are conclusions which will enable them to sell their product. Drug company sponsored research is done more to get good reviews than to find out the truth.”—-Dr Vernon Coleman

    “As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to have a naturopathic physician available. Almost all drugs are toxic and are designed only to treat symptoms and not to cure anyone. Vaccines are highly dangerous, have never been adequately studied or proven to be effective, and have a poor risk/reward ratio. Most surgery is unnecessary and most textbooks of medicine are inaccurate and deceptive. Almost every disease is said to be idiopathic (without known cause) or genetic – although this is untrue. In short, our main stream medical system is hopelessly inept and/or corrupt. The treatment of cancer and degenerative diseases is a national scandal. The sooner you learn this, the better off you will be.”—-Dr. Allan Greenberg 12/24/2002

    u can read more on http://www.whale.to/v/pharma_hoax_q.html

    i read this interview with DR. ARCHIE KALOKERINOS (He is well known worldwide as the doctor who spent much of his time fighting for the wellbeing of the Aboriginal inhabitants of Australia.) He is so much appreciated for his work and for his engagements that many, lovingly, call him ‘Archie’ He wrote down his experiences in the masterpiece “Every Second Child”. Instead of being rewarded for doing so, he was harrassed and his methods were disregarded by the authorities, probably because they were too simple, too cheap and too efficacious to fit modem medical standards.

    DR.KALOKERINOS says:

    “I will tell the story how I read the 1993 special edition of Scientific American. It is a prestigious scientific journal. September 1993 – a special edition on Immunology. There is a leading article in that journal about sir Gustav Nossal the famous Australian so called medical authority. He says what a wonderful thing these vaccines are in third world countries, because the kids no longer die from polio or diphteria. And to illustrate his point he has got a full colour page photograph of a Nigerian infant being vaccinated, and you would not believe it, using a non-disposable needle! This is in a country where the incidence of AIDS is terribly high, hepatitis B and you name it… There is no way you can sterilise these needles efficiently in practice. If I did that that sort of procedure at home in Australia I would be instantly deregistered and probably even jailed. Now why the … (I was going to swear because it really makes me angry) are they allowing to continue this sort of practise in places like Africa just because they are blacks. I wrote a letter to several sources after reading that article and I said it was murder and genocide. And it is, but no one would print it. Now this is the worst state of affairs in this vaccine business today, where in Africa they are still using non-disposable needles for the vaccines. Now I ask you a simple question: would you go to Africa and receive a vaccine under those conditions? You would have to be off your head! I saw one patient who was touring around Africa and there was an epidemic of some sort of disease. They advised him to be vaccinated, so he was vaccinated. They used a dirty needle and gave him AIDS. He did not know he had it, came home and gave it to his wife and they are both dead! White Australians. Now, I don’t know what people are going to do but I think if we tolerate this sort of situation in Africa then we are guilty of some pretty terrible crime against humanity.”

    u can read the full interview here: http://www.whale.to/v/kalokerinos.html

  3. Rathna Says:

    even I do feel there is a mafia involvement here. Recently we noticed “Chicken Fever” suddenly started in many places and some company’s (which manufactures these drugs) share prices increased, these medicines are very costly and not affordable by a common man. I heard some one expressing, they have injected viruses causing this deceases. To some extent I feel this can be true.

    This is really inhuman activity and a worst crime, So many people’s life and daily earning at loss.

  4. shreeganesha Says:

    Suerly, There is no doubt at all.

  5. msanjay Says:

    Anitha, its nice that there are some doctors who don’t prescribe medicine till absolutely necessary, that’s really good. Some of them explain to me that if they don’t prescribe something, the patient feels taken for a ride and loses trust in the doctor! After all doctors also need to make money… so they prescribe somethng minimal just to please the patient! I’ll let you know if I recall the doctor’s name.

    Rathna – “I heard some one expressing” might not be a very reliable source for getting worked up, there will always be plenty of vague theories and rumors.

    Bellur, yet to read the article in detail, but it did look interesting when I skimmed through it – thanks!

    shreeganesha, if you are so sure, I’m quite curious to know what alternatives you’ve looked at. After all, at the end of the day inspite of all this we have to go to a doctor and get some pills when one is ill!

  6. Vidya Says:

    Hi sanjay!

    Being associated with a pharma company for 3 years in Marketing (although
    I am into aroma chemicals marketing) I would definitely say “Marketing tactics are very, very effective at getting physicians to do what each drug company wants — to prescribe their product.”

    Drug Companies spend about 20 percent of their total profits on marketing, while only devoting six percent to the development of new drugs.

    Although most doctors say their relationships with drugmakers do not affect medical decisions, numerous studies suggest otherwise.

    When you visit your doctor’s office, the notepads, the ink pens, even the mirror on the wall in the room are likely to be imprinted with the name of a pharmaceutical manufacturer, all provided to your physician free of charge. The list includes small and big – alarm clocks to air-conditioners, calendars to cars, rubber bands to refrigerators, telephone index to television and office items to overseas trips

    …… and doctors seem to have an obligation in saying “I’m going to prescribe that person’s drug”

    It would seem that the days of breakthrough medical discoveries are gone. It is now all about profit-making!!

    But how ethical is it to buy a physician for a pen or some pizza and beer ???

  7. msanjay Says:

    Vidya, thanks for your really informative comments – your observations make a lot of sense.

    How ethical? I don’t know really… I’m just optimistic that physicians don’t allow themselves to get bought so easily.

    I think mostly we go by faith on a doctor, a doctor who has good credibility, even if he hands out sugar pills saying they’re some medicine – sometimes that helps because we’re so confident that its going to heal us! Beyond a certain point, I feel that we might have to go to a doctor and once we place our faith in him, and in such a situation we better forget about whether he is being bought over or not! :mrgreen:

    According to a friend, UG Krishnamurthy said that he would never go see a doctor no matter what happened to him 🙂

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