astavakra gita

[some corrections made on 21-Nov-2005]

The story of Astavakra is pretty fascinating, and sets the background and the context.

As per what I remember from a seminar I attended recently, I present the speaker’s opinions as I remember them, I hope I do not misquote anything! The speaker was Sri Nityananda, someone who was enlightened at the age of 25. Now don’t ask me what that’s supposed to mean, I’m not that much concerned, I went only because the topic was interesting, and I felt whatever he (or his followers) claims about himself is not of primary concern, if he’s got some good ideas let me listen to them… and indeed he did give a very lively and informative presentation.


The story is that while still in his mother’s womb, Astavakra would listen to his father’s recitation of verses from the Rig Veda, and sometimes correct him. Astavakra was the pioneer in creating the idea of a generation gap 😉 where the son is annoyingly smarter than the father! And at one point he said that “what you’re reciting is just words, theres no substance in them” and his father got really angry, and cursed his son!

And due to the curse, when Astavakra was born, he had eight distortions in his body (hence the name asta = 8, vakra = crooked), and needless to say was far from handsome…

At the age of 12, as a result of several incidents* Astavakra goes to the court. King Janaka, a very scholarly king, is on the throne and all the courtiers are present, and the moment he enters – everybody starts laughing – seeing his crooked body including the king.

But instead of getting offended, Astavakra also starts laughing. [this, the speaker commented, is the mark of a great man, whether he feels offended when he is being belittled].

King Janaka ridicules him “everybody is laughing at you, why are you also laughing”.

Then Astavakra answers very boldly, referring to everybody in the court who was laughing “I am laughing because such a great scholar and king like you has surrounded yourself with cobblers!! And you’re also one among them!!”. He further explains “…because a cobbler looks only at the skin, and not beyond it… likewise you’re all judging me just by my shape, and not looking at my being!”.

And then King Janaka gets the idea that really Astavakra knows what he is talking about, and starts asking him questions. There’s a question and answer conversation, recorded as the Ashtavakra Gita.

The Astavakra Gita is around 5000 years older than the Bhagavad Gita. The speaker said that this is an extremely powerful and concise book, and gives the truth straightaway, without any long winded twists and turns. The speaker made one very crucial point: he said the most important thing about the Astavakra Gita is that nobody worships Astavakra. Therefore it stands a better chance of people paying attention to what he said. The main issue the Bhagavad Gita has ended up with is that people start worshipping Krishna and therefore get sidetracked from what he actually said!


In the entire 3 days (of approx 2 hours each), the speaker only covered the first few paragraphs. I’ll probably read the rest of the book some day, but he said that the rest of the book were the same paragraphs explained in greater detail.

There were a lot more ideas, and though they come to mind in particular situations, they’re kind of hard to explain just from memory.


\* As for the background story, the speaker skipped the details, I suppose because of limited time he wanted to get to the point.

I found various versions of the background story on the internet. One is that Astavakra’s father is imprisoned, another is that his father is dead and he wants to bring him back to life, another is that King Janaka asks that he dosen’t care if he’s the greatest of scholars, but he should get enlightened straightaway by the mere words of the scholar, another is that there’s a debate where Astavakra helps in the victory, etc. I feel these details aren’t that relevant compared to the actual content of the conversation (given in the link).

49 Responses to “astavakra gita”

  1. Soujanya Says:

    I heard sri sri ravi shakar(Art Of Living) talks about the ashtavakra geeta. I think ashtavakra geeta is the most profound knowledge put in simple words. Simply remarkable.

  2. Gangadhar Says:

    Just amazed by the answer given by Astavakra to th king…
    And very nice info,you’ve given…
    btw thanks for linking me to your blog…
    keep visiting..

  3. Umesh Kumar Sharma Says:

    explanations and intention behind AstaVakra Geeta is Simply and nicely narrated by H.H. Sri Sri RaviShankar ji, Its Fabulous and very much heart touching. It simply pay my Regards and Salute to his highness. Its Amazing. Required to be listen by each one of this Universe.

  4. msanjay Says:

    Hi Soujanya, thanks for visiting and commenting here!

    Have you only heard that Ravishankarji talks about it, or did you mean to say you actually heard the talk…? 🙂

  5. msanjay Says:

    Some after-thoughts wrt this post…

    Accumulation of knowledge too is simply yet another habit of accumulation – and I’m particularly suceptible to it, even though I know that unless I can apply it, its of no use to me (or anyone else)! I believe one must have no attachment even to knowledge, and be ready to discard it if and when necessary.

    Anyway one surprising thing I notice is the sharp increase in India in the media in the number of men who regard themselves as enlightened, Swamijis, Gurus, etc. (Ok lets discard the case of people who are frauds discreetly running after money or popularity or power, and consider only people who are genuinely found peace of mind and now want to share it with others) Now not that they weren’t around earlier, but they’re more in the media than ever. I switch on TV in the morning and I find that there are atleast 6 channels with bearded/robed Swamijis with something to say.

    One downside of this is that one can find mobs of people running from one to the other doing what’s now a common term called “spiritual shopping” – trying to find someone or the other to quench their insatiable thirst for something beyond the ephemeral. But in a lot of cases, its nothing but a search for miracles. A lot of the time, the spiritual search is only a very clever disguise of a desire for escapism from difficulties, a desire for some kind of an easy life – and such searches typically end in disillusionment and cynicism. As Nityanandaji noted, a lot of masters ( eg: UG ) keep insisting that there’s no such thing as enlightenment, simply to stop such senseless searches for something beyond what’s already there!

    The Indian psyche is very susceptible to get attached to some guru and start worshipping them rather than listen to what they have to say! Here are two perspectives about gurus: one by J. Krishnamurthy and one by some anonymous guru – I guess its upto each person to form his own opinions.

    But I believe that on the whole, its a very positive sign. Maslow’s heirarchy of needs indicates that people must go through a specific level of needs until they consider self-actualisation, but it looks like our society wants to uplift itself straightaway 😉 …perhaps because the one highest need has taken precedence over all the others!


    Here’s a pretty cool satire wrt where a search for the truth could end up… Search For Self Called Off After 38 Years

  6. msanjay Says:

    Some more memories of Swami Nityananda… a man whom I hadnt heard of earlier, and didnt hear of much after the 3-day talk either, but who said that he was enlightened by the age of 24.

    He was really candid He declared to the audience “I am not here to prove I am God. I am here to prove you are God.” He openly lambasted his “disciples” saying that they consider it as a status symbol that they were with the swamiji for so many years, but he says to them “you should be ashamed of yourself that you were with me all these years but still its not been of any use to you!”

    I must say I find it quite surprising that even after all these months I remember almost everything he’d said. He’d even said that ‘my teaching will come to you when you need it’ 🙂 and every now and then I end up recollecting something or the other of what he said 😉

    His story on how he became enlightened was pretty interesting – I dont want to start writing that right now as it is this post has become very big. In case I procrastinate endlessly, the summary is that it happened after he gave up and threw away all his beads and photographs and “forgot” his mantras and just relaxed.

    Dosen’t necessarily work with everyone though, eg check the link

    Though its a [pretty good] sattire, it kind of comes bizarrely close to what UGs been saying all the while…

    UG is considered an enlightened master by many including Swami Nityananda. As always I’m a sceptic, I asked my friend a strong advocate of UG “why – he keeps on cribbing about JK [his former Guru] all the time, on what basis does anyone think he’s enlightened?” But my friend said that anybody who spent some time with UG just being in his presence, felt very relaxed. This convinced me to flip through his online books (a year or so ago) and theyre quite readable. Some of his quotes are very striking.

    Swami Nityananda did touch upon UG as well and explained why UG says things like “The search ends with the realization that there is no such thing as enlightenment.”

  7. msanjay Says:

    Was reminded of this again today when I was stunned to see an entry in Ramakrishna’s blog (which I finally managed to add to my blogroll today)

    One thing Swami Nityananda had said – that every moment is unique, independent of each other, but its our mind that sits and links everything together and makes it a sequence out of it. He spoke about ‘unclutching’ ourselves from this sequence of events. He said “stop looking for any purpose to life and all that, the moment you realise the purposelessness of life, you are liberated!”

  8. bellur ramakrishna Says:

    sanjay, don’t know how i missed this post. usually, i dig up your old posts. but nice to know that u were there too. really, i have fallen in love with this book: astavakragita!

    and thanks for blogrolling me.

  9. msanjay Says:

    Remembered another couple of things today…

    An elderly gentleman asked “I want my son to attend your meditation course Swamiji but he isn’t getting convinced at all” And he replies… this is what I most liked about him… he gives sharp to the point answers rather than flowery pleasing answers… “how do you know your son isn’t smarter than you? You can never teach, only life can teach”.

    One of the most important things he’d said at the beginning of the lecture – can’t recollect the exact words: “For the next three days, I want you to be within yourself.


    Reason I remembered was I got an invitation today by email…

    I myself am not associated with this or any Swamiji or his organisation, am generally a sceptic and like to look beyond hype for what (in my totally irrelevant opinion) amounts to real substance.

    Though it looks super-religious and ultra-philosophical which isn’t exactly my cup of tea, I’m still posting this here based on the last time I attended his lecture because I felt there was more to his lecture than the topic.

    I suspect he choses his topic as merely an excuse to attract people who’re interested, but goes far beyond the topic! 🙂

    We would like to extend a cordial invite for you to attend the three day discourse series on Shiv Sutras by Swamiji on the Shiv Sutras.
    Dates: 13th, 14th and 15th of July
    Time: 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm
    Venue: St. Joseph’s Auditorium, Next to Mallya Hospital, Opp. Kanteerva Stadium, Vittal Mallya Road, Bangalore

    More details are probably available on his website.

    Be warned… the previous time, one of my friends (our ex-colleague btw) who’d told me about it in the first place later told me that he hadn’t found much value in the talk. So if you end up feeling the same way don’t blame me -attend at your own risk 😛

  10. Sanjeev Says:

    It seems that the “The Matrix” movies were loosely based the Astavakra geeta!!

  11. msanjay Says:

    Hmm well that isn’t listed at the detailed analysis of the Matrix here.

    Happened to see the following…

    # Remind yourself that when you die, your Inbox won’t be empty – cut that obsession with to-do lists. See life as not trying to do as much as possible but to learn from the experience. People who obsess with getting a lot done never have inner peace.

    The Inner-net – Just Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff

    …and was reminded of another thing that Nityanandaji had said… someone had asked him “Swamiji, should I renounce the world to gain enlightenment?” and he laughed and replied “its enough to renounce what you don’t have!”

  12. msanjay Says:

    UG on gurus…

    Q: J. Krishnamurti always emphasized one fact, that is, nobody requires a guru. In fact, you too, I understand, would not like to be a guru for anybody. According to you, what is the role of a guru who shows the way for the Sishya?

    A: I think that it is the wrong word to use in these days for all those spiritual gurus we have in the market, selling shoddy pieces of goods, and exploiting the gullibility and credulity of people. A guru is one who tells you to throw away all the crutches that we have been made to believe are essential for our survival. The true guru tells you, “Throw them away, and don’t replace them with the fancy crutches or even computerized crutches. You can walk; and if you fall, you will rise and walk again.” Such is the man whom we consider, or even tradition considers, to be the real guru, and not those who are selling those shoddy pieces of goods in the market place today. It is a business; it has become a holy business to people. I am not condemning anything. But as long as you depend upon somebody for solving your problems, so long you remain helpless. And this helplessness is exploited by the people who actually do not have the answers to your problems, but they give you some sort of a comforter. People are satisfied with these comforters and fall for this kind of thing, instead of dealing with the problems by themselves and for themselves.

  13. Madhusudhan Says:


  14. Madhusudhan Says:

    UG is the ultimate GURU. Enlightenment is the ultimate desire.

    It is like any other sensual desire. We have categorized certain desires as holy and others as earthly.

    After stumbling upon UG, I found my self where exactly I should belong to and what I should deserve. It made me to become a simple person. If there i something in you, it will flower by itself inspite of how much effort u can make. In fact the effort or sadhana is the one which is hindering that natural movement.

    No more “Chaoiceless Awareness”. The Chaiceless Awareness” as propounded by JK is the worst of all sadhanas as it drives U go crazy or will reult in cardiac arrests.

  15. msanjay Says:

    Dear Madhusudhan, glad to see that you seem to be very happy with UG 🙂 Not sure why you felt that JK’s choiceless awareness is anything different than becoming a simple person and allowing what is within you to flower effortlessly by itself. In my opinion, they seem to be saying the same thing in their own ways… But then, each person eventually has to find out his own truth by himself, so you don’t have to believe me 😉 …after all I don’t know anything, that was just a kind of speculation!

  16. Madhusudhan Says:

    Dear Sanjay,

    ‘Simple Person’ – I actually meant “no teacher and no teachings and no enlightenment’.

    It is not some goal to be achieved thro some critical awareness. There is no awareness in that state let alone “choiceless awareness’. U don’t know what u see even if u see a tree(for example) for hours together and then where is the question of volumes of “commentaries of livings” coming from? Words are very dangerous whether holy are derogatory.

  17. msanjay Says:

    Thanks for your clarification.

    Not sure what you meant by U don’t know what u see even if u see a tree(for example) for hours together… because usually when I see a tree I know I’m looking at a tree 🙂

    As for enlightenment, I have absolutely no clue about how it can be achieved and consequently no clue on how it cannot be achieved either – so no comments there. I confess I have indulged in the total waste of time of idly speculating about it sometimes :mrgreen:

    Words might not be that dangerous which is why I’ve collected so many in my blog 🙂 (Recall “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” 😉

  18. Madhusudhan Says:

    U are correct that there is only verbal level and nothing beyond and beneath.

    Wordsmiths have more market value especially in spiritual market.

    I am not saying that I am in that state of seeing at tree without “knowing” what it is.

    But the word “tree” creates the object there. There is no way of experiencing the reality without the word (or knowledge). Even the experience of bliss or moksha stems out of such knowlege.

  19. Madhusudhan Says:


    R U frm Bangalore?

  20. Madhusudhan Says:

    Is it not Astavakra geetha is perceived by many as more fashoinable stuff after getting fed up with Bhagavad Gita?

  21. Madhusudhan Says:

    U R so unique that U need not change to become someone else.

    Morality is the horrendous creation of man.

    The world around U is the only reality and no other reality exists and U need to deal with this reality in UR own unique way.

    Love is the futile effort to integrate two divided souls.

    Beauty is the creation of thought. All forms of arts are pleasure movements.

    Man created God to justify his control over the rest of the nature’s creation.

    The humanity is in such a precarious situation that any movement to save mankind only hastens the process of the total destruction.

    To hope is to create another hopeless situation.

    The desire for God and Sex stem from the same source.

    Meditation is inner warfare destroying the sensitivity of the organism.

    Food orgies are worse than sex orgies.

    The heart is functioning harmoniously and smoothly without waiting for Buddha or Jesus to tell it ” How to Function”.

    Stop thinking and Start living.

    When the nature cannot take it any more it will finish off the mankind in one stroke and that is the only Moksha.

    The divisions in human beings are natural reflections of the divisive human consciousness. It’s impossible to integrate the humanity.

    Every damned guru puts in words about his spiritual experiences, and his followers market it to make billions of dollors for themselves. Religious institutions are most profit making business organizations.

  22. msanjay Says:

    Agreed… any word creates a concept and we immediately “thing” it.

    ille bengaloorinalli huTTi beLedavanu naanu…

    wrt Astavakra geetha, I doubt it, haven’t heard that many people talking about it. In any case, it again comes down to concepts… it only helps if it movitivates us to go further down the rabbit hole 🙂 As far as I’m concerned, I try not to go overboard in concepts that are not of practical value to my everyday life apart from entertainment purposes.

  23. Madhusudhan Says:

    Nice response Sanjay.

    Me stay near vidyapeetha circle nearer to mr Chandrasekahr’s house. Chandraskahr has been host and frnd of UG for several years. I met UG in his house a few times.

    My contact .

  24. msanjay Says:

    cheers Madhusudhan…! Lets catch up sometime – hope you got my sms. Removed your number for your privacy. Thanks for those quotes… really liked many of them… some of them are really funny “To hope is to create another hopeless situation”!

    In general one point is that whatever anybody says, their words would’ve been addressed to some particular person/group in some particular context.

    Best part of people like UG is that I feel no compulsion to meet him, but of course it if happens it would be really good I suppose.

    I guess had it been a while ago, I’d have been writing long long essays as this had been my favorite topic. But as UG says…

    “If you have the courage to touch life for the first time, you will never know what hit you. Everything man has thought, felt and experienced is gone, and nothing is put in its place.”

    It takes tremendous courage, and where reading, understanding, words, reading and discussions – which may help initially by motivating or so – will simply fail to really help anyone beyond a certain point.

    In my opinion, courage is the ability to handle a situation when we’re beyond the boundary of what we’re familiar with and beyond the sense of security we usually live with. Going beyond the known, into the unknown, and managing to stay maybe shaken but not stirred! 😉

  25. Madhusudhan Says:

    Thanks for the SMS Sanjay. Hope U received my reply SMS.

    I wish you would once meet UG at Chandrasekhar’s house (at hosekerahalli). I am not quite sure of UG’s next visit. Certainly it not going to bring “Radical Transformations” or “mutations in the brain cells”. But his teachings and his persona somehow has an effect in unburdening the mind from the experience of the mankind which includes value system, fear and tradition and respectability and all other stuff one is carrying for maintaining his identity.

    To be simple is to be oneself.

  26. msanjay Says:

    Got your sms… will check out visiting UG… no harm in trying I guess 8) I have no expectations from him so dosen’t matter what it will or not bring. As for burden of identity etc, this story depicts that it need not really matter.

    An interesting quote above is this one…

    The humanity is in such a precarious situation that any movement to save mankind only hastens the process of the total destruction.

    So where does that leave us?

    To stay still… absolutely still in complete silence.

    “To meet everything and everyone through stillness instead of mental noise is the greatest gift you can offer to the universe. I call it stillness, but it is a jewel with many facets: that stillness is also joy, and it is love.”

    ~ Eckhard Tolle – Power of Now

    That’s why I often feel everyone’s saying more or less the same thing! 🙂

    But one thing for sure is that, our understanding or believing or disbelieving or discussing or debating this is only with small fraction of our mind. The rest of our mind – the majority of it – is in darkness and dosen’t really get the point – any point. We never get to know about this rest of our mind because we’re filling our mind with so many distractions, so whatever ideas we have about stillness etc, are just at the surface level only.

    Recently was at Sankey Tank, the surface of the water looked so deceptively calm and still, but taking some time to peer further under the surface, one could see the fishes endlessly swimming around underwater!

  27. msanjay Says:

    Calmness etc is easier when things are simple… but not quite so when circumstances are discovered to be much more turbulent than what one had assumed! A nice zen story makes this point…

    After winning several archery contests, the young and rather boastful champion challenged a Zen master who was renowned for his skill as an archer. The young man demonstrated remarkable technical proficiency when he hit a distant bull’s eye on his first try, and then split that arrow with his second shot.

    “There,” he said to the old man, “see if you can match that!”

    Undisturbed, the master did not draw his bow, but rather motioned for the young archer to follow him up the mountain. Curious about the old fellow’s intentions, the champion followed him high into the mountain until they reached a deep chasm spanned by a rather flimsy and shaky log.

    Calmly stepping out onto the middle of the unsteady and certainly perilous bridge, the old master picked a far away tree as a target, drew his bow, and fired a clean, direct hit.

    “Now it is your turn,” he said as he gracefully stepped back onto the safe ground.

    Staring with terror into the seemingly bottomless and beckoning abyss, the young man could not force himself to step out onto the log, no less shoot at a target.

    “You have much skill with your bow,” the master said, sensing his challenger’s predicament, “but you have little skill with the mind that lets loose the shot.”


  28. Madhusudhan Says:

    Thinking Vs Living

    A student had many questions.

    “What is life? What is reality? What is the meaning and purpose of life? How to live? What is right living? How to live in this chaotic world?”

    He went to a Master and asked him these questions. Master was silent a while and said to him “I can answer these questions but not here. Only in a particular place I take you, you can ask these questions there which I can try to answer.”

    The student was happy and was willing to go with the Master to that place where he can get answers for his questions.

    The Master led the student to a place far from the village and to the edge of the precipice of a hillock below which lies expansive and turbulent river.

    The Master suddenly pushed the student into the river and shouted “This is the right place for you to ask these questions. Come on ask.”

    The student was dazed while falling into the river and when plunged into the turbulent river he was struggling to swim in those violent waves of the river. The river was so wild for him that he could hardly manage to swim. He was ONLY concentrating on saving his life. Nothing in his mind but action.

    After he could manage to reach the shore with great difficulty, Master walked up to him and asked “Why you did not bother to ask the questions in that place where you are expected to ask them?”.

    The student managed to say “Which questions? I have no questions to ask”. He left and never to return to the Master.

    It is on the safe banks we have questions but not in the midst of the river.

    A true Master is the one who kicks you into the “action” rather than giving intellectual abstractions as answers.

    The organism for example, your heart does not question nor waits for the Jesus or Buddha to teach it “How to function”

    To learn to swim we should jump into the river and not contemplate about “How to swim?” by sitting on the banks of the river.

    Thought cannot meet life. Thought born out of dead past cannot capture that which is living. Thought how ever swift it is, always lags behind the movement of life.

    When you are terribly hungry there will be some action. You hunt for the food. Then you don’t contemplate about “what is hunger? ” and “how to rightly deal with the hunger”. The state of hunger cannot be simulated by thinking about the hunger, no matter how deeply you think.

    Thinking and Living are two mutually exclusive things. Smoke and Fire cannot co-exist.

    Thinking about “how to live” has created manic depressive state in us as we miss the ‘fresh lease of life’ by our constant thinking. And thoughts block the natural flow of life.

    Thought is waste of life energy. It is useful only for maintaining survival mechanism and for the technological progress and in rest of the arena it is destructive.

    To meet the life without questions and answers, with absolute uncertainty is to

  29. Madhusudhan Says:

    The quote i liked very much is,

    ‘The heart is functioning harmoniously and smoothly without waiting for Buddha or Jesus to tell it ” How to Function”. ‘

    The teachings of Budhha or Jesus or JK or UG or Ashtavakra is redundant for the organism which has its own intelligence to deal with any sort of situation. Those teachings cannot stay there as they are rejected by the organism to continue its smooth and harmonious functioning.

  30. msanjay Says:

    Quite agree with that quote. I can’t imagine whom UG was talking to when he said that, because I for one never at any point in time ever wondered whether my heart has to wait for anyone to tell it how to function.

    Similar quotes from JK:

    “Look Sir, perhaps the Buddha may have seen that intelligence is not thought. The other have spoken of how to suppress thought, control it. To them that is meditation… listen the Buddha might have said there is intelligence that has nothing to do with thought. The rest of them read it or heard it, they translated that or repeated that.”

    “No body listened to him (Buddha), that is why there is Buddhism.”

    The first quote is quite similar to UG’s quote Thought is the enemy which is why I avoid going overboard in thinking about what that means 😉

    However if I ever meet UG I’d really want to thank him for the positive influence he’s had in my life – there have been some things he’s said that were extremely useful to me at exactly the right time I needed to hear it.

  31. Anuj Says:

    Visit All your doubts shall clear. You will find the purpose of life and the highest wisdom.

  32. msanjay Says:

    Thanks Anuj nice link.

  33. Bharath Says:

    Hi guys,
    well was going through your posts and by the way just wanted to confirm that yes Art of Living’s Sri Sri Ravishankar has given a commentry on the astaavakra gita, its a 33 day course(33 45mins cds). well i am not here to comment on any guru that i dont know, but this from Art of living is best understood only if the basic course and advanced course is done, well i didnt know why untill i started hearing the gita…i have heard if a person who has not experienced the silence of his mind or alertfull resting, then he will not understand the astaavakra gita…

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  44. Ramanjaneya sharma Says:

    Very nice explation about the great incident happened in Astavakra’s life.
    He’s such a great spiritual scholar at an early age..We should all judge a person by his or her inner maturity not by the outer apperance,which is temporary..God bless u..

  45. Enliglhtenlment Says:

    I consider this to be one of the greatest books ever written. It tells all about one’s true self and people need to know this. Socrates said “Know thyself.”

  46. Sanjay M Says:

    Completely agree. To know, while reading may be a good starting point, one must experience!

  47. vidya Says:

    what this blog really does is to stir the awareness —in atleast some of those who read them—- of having known the known and understood the understandable, and this, when notions like knowing, understanding, knowledge, are themselves impediments, not to think of the notion of being the knower of the known, or even the knower of the unknown; discussions like these are best left to individual perceptions than being a point of debate and discussion, agreement, acceptance or rejection, all of which command and rely on a common point of reference which may not present itself in this platform.

  48. yet another somethingananda | a common man ಸಂಜಯ Says:

    […] days I listened to his excellent lecture on Astavakra Gita (he had not charged any money also). The value I got from those 3 days remains unchanged, valuable […]

  49. Andrea Watson Says:

    one of the best things to incorporate with Stress Management is meditation and deep breating exercises.;*~

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